Comments on: Miss604 Poll: Patio Smoking Ban in Vancouver http://www.miss604.com/2007/09/miss604-poll-patio-smoking-ban-in-vancouver.html Vancouver Blog Miss604 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:15:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Banditu http://www.miss604.com/2007/09/miss604-poll-patio-smoking-ban-in-vancouver.html#comment-3287 Banditu Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:12:01 +0000 http://www.miss604.com/2007/09/miss604-poll-patio-smoking-ban-in-vancouver.html#comment-3287 Vancouver is filled with anti-smoking Nazi's. Never again will i visit this city. I have been unaware of crazy smoking law at a patio bar and got kicked out by bouncer! I have no idea how to tell him (my english is bad)! i didnt know vancouver you cant smoke inside OR outside (especially at a bar)! Fuck Vancouver and fuck you anti-smoking nazis, go sit in your mcdonalds booth and choke on your big macs. VANCOUVER IS A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY WITH TERRIBLE CULTURE AND CRAZY SMOKING LAWS! seig heil! Vancouver is filled with anti-smoking Nazi’s. Never again will i visit this city. I have been unaware of crazy smoking law at a patio bar and got kicked out by bouncer! I have no idea how to tell him (my english is bad)! i didnt know vancouver you cant smoke inside OR outside (especially at a bar)! Fuck Vancouver and fuck you anti-smoking nazis, go sit in your mcdonalds booth and choke on your big macs. VANCOUVER IS A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY WITH TERRIBLE CULTURE AND CRAZY SMOKING LAWS! seig heil!

]]> By: Tuesday Morning Link Fest: Butting Out Poll » Vancouver Blog Miss 604 http://www.miss604.com/2007/09/miss604-poll-patio-smoking-ban-in-vancouver.html#comment-3286 Tuesday Morning Link Fest: Butting Out Poll » Vancouver Blog Miss 604 Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:30:15 +0000 http://www.miss604.com/2007/09/miss604-poll-patio-smoking-ban-in-vancouver.html#comment-3286 [...] The last year has been a big one for smokers in BC; first there was the patio smoking ban, then the updates in March that made it an offense to smoke within 6 meters of entrance ways (among [...] [...] The last year has been a big one for smokers in BC; first there was the patio smoking ban, then the updates in March that made it an offense to smoke within 6 meters of entrance ways (among [...]

]]> By: Adrian Elliot http://www.miss604.com/2007/09/miss604-poll-patio-smoking-ban-in-vancouver.html#comment-3285 Adrian Elliot Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:21:30 +0000 http://www.miss604.com/2007/09/miss604-poll-patio-smoking-ban-in-vancouver.html#comment-3285 Robert - I live in Madrid and when I arrived here 8 years ago as a student I didn't care that much either about drinking in smoke filled bars with friends even though I was a non smoker. It was an annoyance, I would get back home smelling of the stuff and with a sore throat for 24 hours, but I chose to have the social life I had and generally put up with it. But now I work, I am 8 years older, and smoking no longer just annoys me, it actually makes me ill. The difference is that now I have a relatively high powered job and when I go out for a drink (no longer voluntary, really) with my colleagues, boss, etc, I am forced to passive smoke. The stomach and general pains that result make me worried for my health, or at the very least developing an ulcer. I am actually now considering moving abroad since my health is too important. I do sport 3 times a week, have a healthy diet, but I am still not healthy due to a habit that is not my own. I therefore suggest those smokers in Canada who want some bars to allow smoking, etc. should look at Madrid before continuing to argue that line. It is very difficult for a non smoker to force a group of smokers in to a non smoking bar so normally the non smoker ends up accepting the worst option for his/ her own health. It may not be nice having so many laws, and telling smokers where they can and can not smoke but at the end of the day the perils of smoking have been no secret since the 1940s so although I can empathise, they should ultimately accept the consequences of their chosen habit, and stop blaming their situation on non smokers. Robert – I live in Madrid and when I arrived here 8 years ago as a student I didn’t care that much either about drinking in smoke filled bars with friends even though I was a non smoker. It was an annoyance, I would get back home smelling of the stuff and with a sore throat for 24 hours, but I chose to have the social life I had and generally put up with it.

But now I work, I am 8 years older, and smoking no longer just annoys me, it actually makes me ill. The difference is that now I have a relatively high powered job and when I go out for a drink (no longer voluntary, really) with my colleagues, boss, etc, I am forced to passive smoke. The stomach and general pains that result make me worried for my health, or at the very least developing an ulcer. I am actually now considering moving abroad since my health is too important. I do sport 3 times a week, have a healthy diet, but I am still not healthy due to a habit that is not my own.

I therefore suggest those smokers in Canada who want some bars to allow smoking, etc. should look at Madrid before continuing to argue that line. It is very difficult for a non smoker to force a group of smokers in to a non smoking bar so normally the non smoker ends up accepting the worst option for his/ her own health. It may not be nice having so many laws, and telling smokers where they can and can not smoke but at the end of the day the perils of smoking have been no secret since the 1940s so although I can empathise, they should ultimately accept the consequences of their chosen habit, and stop blaming their situation on non smokers.

]]> By: Daralyn http://www.miss604.com/2007/09/miss604-poll-patio-smoking-ban-in-vancouver.html#comment-3284 Daralyn Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:36:23 +0000 http://www.miss604.com/2007/09/miss604-poll-patio-smoking-ban-in-vancouver.html#comment-3284 Why is it people are so hyper about smoke? Why is it people forgot to live and let live? Why is it in this day in age if you feel you are not controlling someone else you are not happy? Are you healthy?or are you one of the ones on the number one hit list obesity.Why do I have to suffer on a bus or plane being crushed by some fat people? Do I got to the grocery and start picking the food out of their shopping because they are killing themselves. Is the smoke killing you really?Is that 100% proof! You have a lot of carcinogens in the air that you breath but I do not see the buses stopping ,nor the car nor, the taxis nor the factories? Do you think drinking and killing people on the roads is an alternative?How about jogging up the road instead of the sidewalk.Did not know you had a running license.Hey lets just live life everybody instead of wondering and worrying about how we are going to die.After all no matter how it is it will not be a happy healthy moment other wise we would not die.So live and when your time comes you will know it was well spend on having a life in stead of always bitching! Why is it people are so hyper about smoke?
Why is it people forgot to live and let live?
Why is it in this day in age if you feel you are not controlling someone else you are not happy?
Are you healthy?or are you one of the ones on the number one hit list obesity.Why do I have to suffer on a bus or plane being crushed by some fat people?
Do I got to the grocery and start picking the food out of their shopping because they are killing themselves.
Is the smoke killing you really?Is that 100% proof!
You have a lot of carcinogens in the air that you breath but I do not see the buses stopping ,nor the car nor, the taxis nor the factories? Do you think drinking and killing people on the roads is an alternative?How about jogging up the road instead of the sidewalk.Did not know you had a running license.Hey lets just live life everybody instead of wondering and worrying about how we are going to die.After all no matter how it is it will not be a happy healthy moment other wise we would not die.So live and when your time comes you will know it was well spend on having a life in stead of always bitching!

]]> By: Robert http://www.miss604.com/2007/09/miss604-poll-patio-smoking-ban-in-vancouver.html#comment-3283 Robert Tue, 03 Jun 2008 07:10:12 +0000 http://www.miss604.com/2007/09/miss604-poll-patio-smoking-ban-in-vancouver.html#comment-3283 I am 41 years old and am now a non-smoker, but I still remember my carefree days of youth when I would hang out in smokey cafes in Vancouver, guzzling java and chain-smoking whilst having long conversations with the other artfags, club kids and punk rockers. Then the government passed a bylaw banning smoking in Vancouver restaurants, and cafe culture just died. Coffee and cigarettes just go together it seems, and those artsy cafes just didn't seem so funky when you couldn't smoke in them. Back in those days bars were smokey too, because virtually everyone who went to bars smoked while they drank. If you didn't like smoke, you didn't go to bars, (If you're that concerned about your health, what are you doing in a bar anyway? Booze isn't exactly good for you either.) Even though I no longer go to bars or cafes and I no longer smoke cigarettes, I find it chilling that the government can so easily eliminate people's freedom and then be applauded by a bunch of sanctimonious hypocrites. I suppose it won't be long before they ban alcohol and fatty foods, and then impose an 8 p.m. curfew. And I'm sure certain people will be blogging about how much safer they feel when that happens. I am 41 years old and am now a non-smoker, but I still remember my carefree days of youth when I would hang out in smokey cafes in Vancouver, guzzling java and chain-smoking whilst having long conversations with the other artfags, club kids and punk rockers. Then the government passed a bylaw banning smoking in Vancouver restaurants, and cafe culture just died. Coffee and cigarettes just go together it seems, and those artsy cafes just didn’t seem so funky when you couldn’t smoke in them.
Back in those days bars were smokey too, because virtually everyone who went to bars smoked while they drank. If you didn’t like smoke, you didn’t go to bars, (If you’re that concerned about your health, what are you doing in a bar anyway? Booze isn’t exactly good for you either.)
Even though I no longer go to bars or cafes and I no longer smoke cigarettes, I find it chilling that the government can so easily eliminate people’s freedom and then be applauded by a bunch of sanctimonious hypocrites. I suppose it won’t be long before they ban alcohol and fatty foods, and then impose an 8 p.m. curfew. And I’m sure certain people will be blogging about how much safer they feel when that happens.

]]> By: ann lindsay http://www.miss604.com/2007/09/miss604-poll-patio-smoking-ban-in-vancouver.html#comment-3282 ann lindsay Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:21:35 +0000 http://www.miss604.com/2007/09/miss604-poll-patio-smoking-ban-in-vancouver.html#comment-3282 Hitler banned smoking some seventy years ago, and we all know where that lead to ? (good job have blue eyes ) Vancouver is full of mean spirited people and are all on their own little power trips these days it seems, very sad. Quote. " The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule " Hitler banned smoking some seventy years ago, and we all know where that lead to ? (good job have blue eyes )
Vancouver is full of mean spirited people and are all on their own little power trips these days it seems, very sad.
Quote.
” The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule “

]]> By: survivor http://www.miss604.com/2007/09/miss604-poll-patio-smoking-ban-in-vancouver.html#comment-3281 survivor Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:04:50 +0000 http://www.miss604.com/2007/09/miss604-poll-patio-smoking-ban-in-vancouver.html#comment-3281 Paul Says: April 1st, 2008 at 7:47 pm My point is… The next time you get off the plane from your exotic vacation, where you bought some items for dirt cheap made in a third world country by children, and get into your SUV that costs $100 to fill a tank that lasts a week, and you drive to your 2000 square foot home that costs hundreds to heat a month, and you throw out all that food that went to waste in your fridge (could have fed a family in Africa for a week), and you take a hot shower for 1/2 an hour using all that fresh water (more than some will see in a life time), and then clean your shower with those chemicals that make your life easier but are poison (it says right on the bottle not to drink them) and wash them down the drain, then crawl into your nice warm bed for a restful night… think twice before you tell off a non-smoker. The reality is, you are no better than they are sry, but did you mean smoker? or non-smoker? the end of this statement of yours has left me wondering if was not a smoker? you meant to put? Paul Says:

April 1st, 2008 at 7:47 pm
My point is…
The next time you get off the plane from your exotic vacation, where you bought some items for dirt cheap made in a third world country by children, and get into your SUV that costs $100 to fill a tank that lasts a week, and you drive to your 2000 square foot home that costs hundreds to heat a month, and you throw out all that food that went to waste in your fridge (could have fed a family in Africa for a week), and you take a hot shower for 1/2 an hour using all that fresh water (more than some will see in a life time), and then clean your shower with those chemicals that make your life easier but are poison (it says right on the bottle not to drink them) and wash them down the drain, then crawl into your nice warm bed for a restful night… think twice before you tell off a non-smoker.
The reality is, you are no better than they are

sry, but did you mean smoker? or non-smoker? the end of this statement of yours has left me wondering if was not a smoker? you meant to put?

]]> By: Paul http://www.miss604.com/2007/09/miss604-poll-patio-smoking-ban-in-vancouver.html#comment-3280 Paul Wed, 02 Apr 2008 02:47:39 +0000 http://www.miss604.com/2007/09/miss604-poll-patio-smoking-ban-in-vancouver.html#comment-3280 I applaud the recent changes to the smoking laws as I think that there are true health hazards with this habit. I do however take some issue with the way that non-smokers (NS) vilify smokers (S). Firstly, the government and other private agencies have literally spent MILLIONS of dollars on campaigns designed to get people to quit smoking - good for them, it is working. Here are some things I think we should all consider... 1) The number of homeless in Canada continues to increase. No roof over their head and they could freeze to death, but hey at least they don't smoke. 2) The number of under-nourished children in Canada continues to get worse. They may starve to death, but at least tobacco won't kill them. 3) Toronto, Abbotsford, and several other cities have had a record number of air pollution warnings in past years. So bad that people are told not to go outside or they could DIE. Well the pollution from industry might kill ya, but at least tobacco won't. 4) Canadians continue to purchase a record number of SUV's and vehicles that throw THOUSANDS of tons of toxins in the air every year... In fact did you know that a 4 cylinder car puts more toxins in the air in a day than a smoker in a year? Well, at least tobacco won't kill them. 5) The number of women being diagnosed with breast cancer is on the rise, funny that most of them live in high pollution centres like major cities... AH well, at least tobacco won't kill them. 6) All those SUV's, flights to exotic places are destroying our world. Our children will probably live to see the flooding of New York, But hey tobacco won't kill them. 7) It is estimated that we drive one species to extinction every day as we chop down trees and clear land to make paper and build our big fancy homes. But hey tobacco won't kill you. 8) The rate of global warming is so serious that the world’s weather patterns are changing to a point that millions are dying from starvation and disease caused by droughts, floods, etc. But hey at least tobacco is not killing them. 9) We go to war to fight for oil, and thousands die, just so we can keep buying all our nice things, drive our SUV’s and take our trips. But hey... yup that’s right tobacco won’t kill us. My point is... The next time you get off the plane from your exotic vacation, where you bought some items for dirt cheap made in a third world country by children, and get into your SUV that costs $100 to fill a tank that lasts a week, and you drive to your 2000 square foot home that costs hundreds to heat a month, and you throw out all that food that went to waste in your fridge (could have fed a family in Africa for a week), and you take a hot shower for 1/2 an hour using all that fresh water (more than some will see in a life time), and then clean your shower with those chemicals that make your life easier but are poison (it says right on the bottle not to drink them) and wash them down the drain, then crawl into your nice warm bed for a restful night... think twice before you tell off a non-smoker. The reality is, you are no better than they are. I applaud the recent changes to the smoking laws as I think that there are true health hazards with this habit. I do however take some issue with the way that non-smokers (NS) vilify smokers (S). Firstly, the government and other private agencies have literally spent MILLIONS of dollars on campaigns designed to get people to quit smoking – good for them, it is working. Here are some things I think we should all consider…
1) The number of homeless in Canada continues to increase. No roof over their head and they could freeze to death, but hey at least they don’t smoke.
2) The number of under-nourished children in Canada continues to get worse. They may starve to death, but at least tobacco won’t kill them.
3) Toronto, Abbotsford, and several other cities have had a record number of air pollution warnings in past years. So bad that people are told not to go outside or they could DIE. Well the pollution from industry might kill ya, but at least tobacco won’t.
4) Canadians continue to purchase a record number of SUV’s and vehicles that throw THOUSANDS of tons of toxins in the air every year… In fact did you know that a 4 cylinder car puts more toxins in the air in a day than a smoker in a year? Well, at least tobacco won’t kill them.
5) The number of women being diagnosed with breast cancer is on the rise, funny that most of them live in high pollution centres like major cities… AH well, at least tobacco won’t kill them.
6) All those SUV’s, flights to exotic places are destroying our world. Our children will probably live to see the flooding of New York, But hey tobacco won’t kill them.
7) It is estimated that we drive one species to extinction every day as we chop down trees and clear land to make paper and build our big fancy homes. But hey tobacco won’t kill you. 8) The rate of global warming is so serious that the world’s weather patterns are changing to a point that millions are dying from starvation and disease caused by droughts, floods, etc. But hey at least tobacco is not killing them.
9) We go to war to fight for oil, and thousands die, just so we can keep buying all our nice things, drive our SUV’s and take our trips. But hey… yup that’s right tobacco won’t kill us.
My point is…
The next time you get off the plane from your exotic vacation, where you bought some items for dirt cheap made in a third world country by children, and get into your SUV that costs $100 to fill a tank that lasts a week, and you drive to your 2000 square foot home that costs hundreds to heat a month, and you throw out all that food that went to waste in your fridge (could have fed a family in Africa for a week), and you take a hot shower for 1/2 an hour using all that fresh water (more than some will see in a life time), and then clean your shower with those chemicals that make your life easier but are poison (it says right on the bottle not to drink them) and wash them down the drain, then crawl into your nice warm bed for a restful night… think twice before you tell off a non-smoker.
The reality is, you are no better than they are.

]]> By: a.m. taylor http://www.miss604.com/2007/09/miss604-poll-patio-smoking-ban-in-vancouver.html#comment-3279 a.m. taylor Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:13:30 +0000 http://www.miss604.com/2007/09/miss604-poll-patio-smoking-ban-in-vancouver.html#comment-3279 This new smoking law is all so hypocritical, I definatly agree with no smoking areas,but there should be areas for smokers as well,after all it's a free country,or is it ? Vancouver seems to be on it's way to being a police state,and it seems to be full of very mean spirit people. Those people who are so worried about the health of others,should now start a working on banning alcohol, more people suffer and die from this, and then why not get rid of all the dogs that mess the streets, cars and airplanes definetly on the list, the dirty streets and smelly rubbish bins should be looked into as well,if one wants to live in a perfect world and one has to feel sorry for tourist who have already booked to visit Vancouver, as a frequent traveler have spoken to many people who have told me they will never come to Vancouver again because of what they think are strange drinking and smoking laws.This certainly is a fun city alright. This new smoking law is all so hypocritical, I definatly agree with no smoking areas,but there should be areas for smokers as well,after all it’s a free country,or is it ? Vancouver seems to be on it’s way to being a police state,and it seems to be full of very mean spirit people.
Those people who are so worried about the health of others,should now start a working on banning alcohol, more people suffer and die from this, and then why not get rid of all the dogs that mess the streets, cars and airplanes definetly on the list, the dirty streets and smelly rubbish bins should be looked into as well,if one wants to live in a perfect world and one has to feel sorry for tourist who have already booked to visit Vancouver, as a frequent traveler have spoken to many people who have told me they will never come to Vancouver again because of what they think are strange drinking and smoking laws.This certainly is a fun city alright.

]]> By: Smoking Ban in BC Update » Miss604’s Vancouver Blog by Vancouver Blogger Rebecca Bollwitt http://www.miss604.com/2007/09/miss604-poll-patio-smoking-ban-in-vancouver.html#comment-3278 Smoking Ban in BC Update » Miss604’s Vancouver Blog by Vancouver Blogger Rebecca Bollwitt Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:01:19 +0000 http://www.miss604.com/2007/09/miss604-poll-patio-smoking-ban-in-vancouver.html#comment-3278 [...] tougher laws and regulations from last summer are all culminating on March 31st, 2008 when new reforms get put into place throughout the [...] [...] tougher laws and regulations from last summer are all culminating on March 31st, 2008 when new reforms get put into place throughout the [...]

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