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		<title>By: Tod Maff1n</title>
		<link>http://www.miss604.com/2007/10/masking-credit-card-numbers.html#comment-3676</link>
		<dc:creator>Tod Maff1n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Nice attitude from the dude. I&#039;d have NEEDED to walk out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Nice attitude from the dude. I&#8217;d have NEEDED to walk out.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Rees</title>
		<link>http://www.miss604.com/2007/10/masking-credit-card-numbers.html#comment-3675</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Rees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is often thought that the cost of credit card fraud is borne by the credit card companies, but that is not so. It is borne by the merchants who accept the bogus cards.

While I was in London, where they use chip and PIN for most customers who have such cards, my American Express card was duplicated - and it did not leave my hands at all. I ran it through a machine at the table, and then signed the printed receipt which the waitron took immediately. So the scammers do not even need to get their hands on the printed copy.

For consumers identity theft is an inconvenience - sometimes quite a big one. For merchants it is a source of serious losses. So you would think that in general they would have a strong incentive to tighten up procedures. The roll out of chip and PIN here is disgracefully slow. In Europe they have had it for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is often thought that the cost of credit card fraud is borne by the credit card companies, but that is not so. It is borne by the merchants who accept the bogus cards.</p>
<p>While I was in London, where they use chip and PIN for most customers who have such cards, my American Express card was duplicated &#8211; and it did not leave my hands at all. I ran it through a machine at the table, and then signed the printed receipt which the waitron took immediately. So the scammers do not even need to get their hands on the printed copy.</p>
<p>For consumers identity theft is an inconvenience &#8211; sometimes quite a big one. For merchants it is a source of serious losses. So you would think that in general they would have a strong incentive to tighten up procedures. The roll out of chip and PIN here is disgracefully slow. In Europe they have had it for years.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss604</title>
		<link>http://www.miss604.com/2007/10/masking-credit-card-numbers.html#comment-3674</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss604</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Fraser, I hope you haven&#039;t posted my photo along with it as I&#039;d like to be able to eat there again without finding surprises in my food hehe. Thank so much for the update, as of last week the masking wasn&#039;t in place (on the merchant or customer copy) so it&#039;s good to know YBC is stepping up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Fraser, I hope you haven&#8217;t posted my photo along with it as I&#8217;d like to be able to eat there again without finding surprises in my food hehe. Thank so much for the update, as of last week the masking wasn&#8217;t in place (on the merchant or customer copy) so it&#8217;s good to know YBC is stepping up.</p>
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		<title>By: Fraser</title>
		<link>http://www.miss604.com/2007/10/masking-credit-card-numbers.html#comment-3673</link>
		<dc:creator>Fraser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I find the response from the server deplorable and not in keeping with our customer service guidelines - I can assure you that the Yaletown Brewing Company IS masking the credit card numbers on our guest checks and we employ the latest in POS security available to the restaurant/food service business.

Nonetheless, thanks for taking the time to point out this service blunder. We have posted your article in our staff room and will detail your concerns at our pre-shift meetings.

Fraser Boyer
Yaletown Brewing Company</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I find the response from the server deplorable and not in keeping with our customer service guidelines &#8211; I can assure you that the Yaletown Brewing Company IS masking the credit card numbers on our guest checks and we employ the latest in POS security available to the restaurant/food service business.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, thanks for taking the time to point out this service blunder. We have posted your article in our staff room and will detail your concerns at our pre-shift meetings.</p>
<p>Fraser Boyer<br />
Yaletown Brewing Company</p>
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		<title>By: bz</title>
		<link>http://www.miss604.com/2007/10/masking-credit-card-numbers.html#comment-3672</link>
		<dc:creator>bz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s articles like this that make me say GET IN MAINSTREAM MEDIA!

your sh*t is good, girl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s articles like this that make me say GET IN MAINSTREAM MEDIA!</p>
<p>your sh*t is good, girl.</p>
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		<title>By: GZ Expat</title>
		<link>http://www.miss604.com/2007/10/masking-credit-card-numbers.html#comment-3671</link>
		<dc:creator>GZ Expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always do what you described...and I don&#039;t care if my number is printed or not, I will hand my receipt to someone in the restaurant before I leave.  I never leave it sit on the table.

I&#039;ve had my card number stolen, twice.  Both times it appears as though it was stolen in Malaysia.  There was a period of time in which nothing happened (taking time to get a card made, undoubtedly) and then, wham, the charges start racking up.  The last time it happened, they racked up over $10,000.00 worth of merchandise in less than a day...hitting all the best shops in Paris, France.

My bank was fantastic about the whole thing.  I noticed the activity online and I called and refused the transactions.  I had to fill out a cumbersome form online, but other than that, I was done.  The bank canceled my card and re-issued a new one with a new number.  The credits were placed into a separate account until the issue was resolved (which is pretty easy when they call up the receipts an none of them match my signature).

Something to remember, though.  If you have your DEBIT card stolen along with the pin number...you won&#039;t have it so easy.  You will be on the hook for what is spent...because, there is generally no paper receipt to follow.  There is a complicated chain of events you have to meet in order to get out of those transactions...and one of those is reporting your card stolen to the bank and to police.  It&#039;s very strange.  Hence, I prefer the use of a credit card wherever I go.  Use it, pay it.

On an unrelated story...I once dined in a restaurant, paid with my card, and handed the receipt to the hostess on my way out the door.  It was a $75.00 meal with a $10 tip.  When the transaction cleared the bank, it was for $135.  Huh?  I called the bank and got a copy of the receipt...someone at the restaurant had altered the 1 in my tip to a 6...pocketing an extra $50.

Lesson?  Leave your tip in cash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always do what you described&#8230;and I don&#8217;t care if my number is printed or not, I will hand my receipt to someone in the restaurant before I leave.  I never leave it sit on the table.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had my card number stolen, twice.  Both times it appears as though it was stolen in Malaysia.  There was a period of time in which nothing happened (taking time to get a card made, undoubtedly) and then, wham, the charges start racking up.  The last time it happened, they racked up over $10,000.00 worth of merchandise in less than a day&#8230;hitting all the best shops in Paris, France.</p>
<p>My bank was fantastic about the whole thing.  I noticed the activity online and I called and refused the transactions.  I had to fill out a cumbersome form online, but other than that, I was done.  The bank canceled my card and re-issued a new one with a new number.  The credits were placed into a separate account until the issue was resolved (which is pretty easy when they call up the receipts an none of them match my signature).</p>
<p>Something to remember, though.  If you have your DEBIT card stolen along with the pin number&#8230;you won&#8217;t have it so easy.  You will be on the hook for what is spent&#8230;because, there is generally no paper receipt to follow.  There is a complicated chain of events you have to meet in order to get out of those transactions&#8230;and one of those is reporting your card stolen to the bank and to police.  It&#8217;s very strange.  Hence, I prefer the use of a credit card wherever I go.  Use it, pay it.</p>
<p>On an unrelated story&#8230;I once dined in a restaurant, paid with my card, and handed the receipt to the hostess on my way out the door.  It was a $75.00 meal with a $10 tip.  When the transaction cleared the bank, it was for $135.  Huh?  I called the bank and got a copy of the receipt&#8230;someone at the restaurant had altered the 1 in my tip to a 6&#8230;pocketing an extra $50.</p>
<p>Lesson?  Leave your tip in cash.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.miss604.com/2007/10/masking-credit-card-numbers.html#comment-3670</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s probably a moot point but it&#039;s not always up to the establishment, but rather their bank that handles the credit card processing (who probably owns the machines that are rented to them) as to whether or not their machine has the software upgrades (or in many cases, new hardware is needed) that actually does the &#039;masking&#039;.

In some cases the establishment may have to pay for a hardware upgrade which could be the reason behind the slow migration to &#039;masking&#039;.

I also know from first hand experience at my day job that a hardware rollout of this kind can take ages to do and there are only so many &#039;banking nerds&#039; out there to do the upgrades in person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s probably a moot point but it&#8217;s not always up to the establishment, but rather their bank that handles the credit card processing (who probably owns the machines that are rented to them) as to whether or not their machine has the software upgrades (or in many cases, new hardware is needed) that actually does the &#8216;masking&#8217;.</p>
<p>In some cases the establishment may have to pay for a hardware upgrade which could be the reason behind the slow migration to &#8216;masking&#8217;.</p>
<p>I also know from first hand experience at my day job that a hardware rollout of this kind can take ages to do and there are only so many &#8216;banking nerds&#8217; out there to do the upgrades in person.</p>
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		<title>By: Tawcan</title>
		<link>http://www.miss604.com/2007/10/masking-credit-card-numbers.html#comment-3669</link>
		<dc:creator>Tawcan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good reminder. I always check that. It&#039;s pretty annoying that some stores don&#039;t do that though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good reminder. I always check that. It&#8217;s pretty annoying that some stores don&#8217;t do that though.</p>
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		<title>By: fotoeins</title>
		<link>http://www.miss604.com/2007/10/masking-credit-card-numbers.html#comment-3668</link>
		<dc:creator>fotoeins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the reminder.   I travel lots internationally, and sometimes, it&#039;s just more convenient to pay with the credit card, because one tends to get more comparable and favourable market currency conversion rates with the credit card than with currency exchanges on the street.  At any rate, I try to check that the credit card number is indeed masked on the slip I sign and leave for the restaurant ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the reminder.   I travel lots internationally, and sometimes, it&#8217;s just more convenient to pay with the credit card, because one tends to get more comparable and favourable market currency conversion rates with the credit card than with currency exchanges on the street.  At any rate, I try to check that the credit card number is indeed masked on the slip I sign and leave for the restaurant &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Adelaide</title>
		<link>http://www.miss604.com/2007/10/masking-credit-card-numbers.html#comment-3667</link>
		<dc:creator>Adelaide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I rarely pay by credit card, but have once or twice. I never even noticed whether the # came up fully or not. Thanks for the head-up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rarely pay by credit card, but have once or twice. I never even noticed whether the # came up fully or not. Thanks for the head-up!</p>
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