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		<title>By: Blogathon 2009 &#8211; Karen Quinn Fung and Tiny Bites &#187; Vancouver Blog Miss 604 by Rebecca Bollwitt</title>
		<link>http://www.miss604.com/2007/12/successful-first-transitcamp-vancouver.html#comment-4485</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogathon 2009 &#8211; Karen Quinn Fung and Tiny Bites &#187; Vancouver Blog Miss 604 by Rebecca Bollwitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] someone I&#8217;ve been lucky to hang out with at various social media events around town including Vancouver Transit Camp, which she organized. She&#8217;s blogging today for the very cool Vancouver Public Spaces Network, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] someone I&#8217;ve been lucky to hang out with at various social media events around town including Vancouver Transit Camp, which she organized. She&#8217;s blogging today for the very cool Vancouver Public Spaces Network, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Reshaping Vancouver Five Minutes at a Time &#187; Vancouver Blog Miss 604 by Rebecca Bollwitt</title>
		<link>http://www.miss604.com/2007/12/successful-first-transitcamp-vancouver.html#comment-4484</link>
		<dc:creator>Reshaping Vancouver Five Minutes at a Time &#187; Vancouver Blog Miss 604 by Rebecca Bollwitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Karen Quinn Fung - Independent initiative (Karen recently organized the Skytrain Security Unconference as well as TransitCamp) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Karen Quinn Fung &#8211; Independent initiative (Karen recently organized the Skytrain Security Unconference as well as TransitCamp) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The True Meaning of BarCamp &#187; Vancouver Blog Miss 604</title>
		<link>http://www.miss604.com/2007/12/successful-first-transitcamp-vancouver.html#comment-4483</link>
		<dc:creator>The True Meaning of BarCamp &#187; Vancouver Blog Miss 604</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] all going to be learning how to mix drinks unlike the topics at the more literally named VinoCamp, TransitCamp, or MobileCamp. BarCamp is an ad-hoc un-conference born from the desire for people to share and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] all going to be learning how to mix drinks unlike the topics at the more literally named VinoCamp, TransitCamp, or MobileCamp. BarCamp is an ad-hoc un-conference born from the desire for people to share and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ten suggestions on how to give good talks &#171; Random Thoughts of a Student of the Environment</title>
		<link>http://www.miss604.com/2007/12/successful-first-transitcamp-vancouver.html#comment-4482</link>
		<dc:creator>Ten suggestions on how to give good talks &#171; Random Thoughts of a Student of the Environment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and a few &#8220;un-conferences&#8221; (that&#8217;s the term used by geeks - see for example Rebecca&#8217;s write-up about Vancouver TransitCamp). Many of my geek events are centered around a main [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and a few &#8220;un-conferences&#8221; (that&#8217;s the term used by geeks &#8211; see for example Rebecca&#8217;s write-up about Vancouver TransitCamp). Many of my geek events are centered around a main [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ariane Khachatourians &#124; West End Girl &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A late post on TransitCamp</title>
		<link>http://www.miss604.com/2007/12/successful-first-transitcamp-vancouver.html#comment-4481</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariane Khachatourians &#124; West End Girl &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A late post on TransitCamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Miss604 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: countably infinite &#187; This one time, at Transit Camp&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.miss604.com/2007/12/successful-first-transitcamp-vancouver.html#comment-4480</link>
		<dc:creator>countably infinite &#187; This one time, at Transit Camp&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from Miss604 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://www.miss604.com/2007/12/successful-first-transitcamp-vancouver.html#comment-4479</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- BZ, Metro Vancouver shouldn&#039;t be compared to the much larger cities of New York, London or Paris when considering transit feasibility, but it can be compared to cities such as Vienna and Stockholm in terms of density and population. Stockholm has a metro population of 2 million with a core comparable to Vancouver/Burnaby/New Westminster in area and density. Stockholm also has one of the best air quality records in the world for large urban centres. Both Stockholm and Vienna have not only several metro lines, but also a good number of light rail lines, commuter trains and effective bus routes. Stockholm and Vienna are both consistantly in the top-ranked cities for quality of life.

Metro Vancouver is at the point where we can either continue to sprawl and build roads which will actually increase driving time - ever driven through Seattle at rush hour? - or contain growth and provide reasonable commuting times via improved transit including 2-way commuter trains built on low-use rail lines (much less expensive than the skytrain/canada line or nothing planning of recent), limited-stop bus routes, better local bus routes and cycling programs, such as those being implemented in Geneva - another smaller metropolis.  North Americans, in general, need more education in regards to the benefits of transit.  We do not NEED cars as much as we have been programmed to believe. As a native Vancouverite who loves Vancouver, but who has also lived in Europe, one of the reasons that European cities rank high in quality of life is their commitment to transit.

I suggest you do some research on transit before you commit yourself to support of the Gateway Program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- BZ, Metro Vancouver shouldn&#8217;t be compared to the much larger cities of New York, London or Paris when considering transit feasibility, but it can be compared to cities such as Vienna and Stockholm in terms of density and population. Stockholm has a metro population of 2 million with a core comparable to Vancouver/Burnaby/New Westminster in area and density. Stockholm also has one of the best air quality records in the world for large urban centres. Both Stockholm and Vienna have not only several metro lines, but also a good number of light rail lines, commuter trains and effective bus routes. Stockholm and Vienna are both consistantly in the top-ranked cities for quality of life.</p>
<p>Metro Vancouver is at the point where we can either continue to sprawl and build roads which will actually increase driving time &#8211; ever driven through Seattle at rush hour? &#8211; or contain growth and provide reasonable commuting times via improved transit including 2-way commuter trains built on low-use rail lines (much less expensive than the skytrain/canada line or nothing planning of recent), limited-stop bus routes, better local bus routes and cycling programs, such as those being implemented in Geneva &#8211; another smaller metropolis.  North Americans, in general, need more education in regards to the benefits of transit.  We do not NEED cars as much as we have been programmed to believe. As a native Vancouverite who loves Vancouver, but who has also lived in Europe, one of the reasons that European cities rank high in quality of life is their commitment to transit.</p>
<p>I suggest you do some research on transit before you commit yourself to support of the Gateway Program.</p>
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		<title>By: Rundown of TransitCamp Vancouver &#124; paulhillsdon.com</title>
		<link>http://www.miss604.com/2007/12/successful-first-transitcamp-vancouver.html#comment-4478</link>
		<dc:creator>Rundown of TransitCamp Vancouver &#124; paulhillsdon.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first transit unconference, as has already been noted by several others in the blogosphere, was a huge success in my opinion. Enormous props go out to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] first transit unconference, as has already been noted by several others in the blogosphere, was a huge success in my opinion. Enormous props go out to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
		<link>http://www.miss604.com/2007/12/successful-first-transitcamp-vancouver.html#comment-4477</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 21:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bz has posted the same FUD comments on my blog. I suspect he&#039;s actually a developer or some other flacky with a pro-oil, anti-transit conflict of interest trying to shape the discussion online.

The Livable Region Coalition has good information on why the proposed gateway plan is a disaster:
http://www.livableregion.ca/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bz has posted the same FUD comments on my blog. I suspect he&#8217;s actually a developer or some other flacky with a pro-oil, anti-transit conflict of interest trying to shape the discussion online.</p>
<p>The Livable Region Coalition has good information on why the proposed gateway plan is a disaster:<br />
<a href="http://www.livableregion.ca/" rel="nofollow">http://www.livableregion.ca/</a></p>
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		<title>By: bz</title>
		<link>http://www.miss604.com/2007/12/successful-first-transitcamp-vancouver.html#comment-4476</link>
		<dc:creator>bz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 20:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love to take the bus.  Truth is, my commute would approach 4hrs total a day on the bus vs the current 50 mins in my car.

Which would you prefer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to take the bus.  Truth is, my commute would approach 4hrs total a day on the bus vs the current 50 mins in my car.</p>
<p>Which would you prefer?</p>
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