Punish the Breed of Dog, or the Owners, A Miss604 Poll
I am well aware this is not a Pibtull, the image simply amused me
Photo credit: Travis Smith on Flickr
Recently Surrey’s been in the news because of a recent rash of dog attacks on humans. Some are now calling for a ban on dangerous breeds.
Surrey Mayor Dianne Watts says a ban on the breed is not up for discussion. Watts says the city has some of the toughest rules in the province governing vicious dogs. She says there’s absolutely no way they’re ’soft on safety’ despite what some critics might say.
A few years back the city did consider a breed ban but instead Watts believes the responsibility should be on the owner. [News1130]
The Province of Ontario banned pitbulls a few years ago, and Saskatchewan did a few years before that, but it seems dozens of breeds could be deemed vicious. In most cases bylaws and provincial legislation requires an animal or person be killed or seriously injured before a dog is deemed dangerous.
An argument is that responsibility lies with the owner and malicious dogs are not bred, but raised, which leaves this open for another Miss604 poll.
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May 27th, 2008 at 1:43 am
i am a dog owner, and I am very annoyed when people blame the breed. i have a border collie/retriever of some sort. he’s very nervous, but we think that’s based soley on the fact that he’s a rescue dog vs anything else.
I’ve met some pits who are sweethearts but are treated as 2nd class citizens because of their breed. It bugs me. Yet, on the other hand, i had friends with a lovely chihuahua named Chica who was killed in front of them in their hallway by a pit.
at this point, i’m all over the owners and breeders. they’re not aggressive dogs unless you MAKE them that way.
May 27th, 2008 at 6:23 am
This breed is particularly attractive to the skids of society. Yes, some loving happy people pick them up too, but mostly it’s the Pil swilling, truck driving, tattooed, swearing, aggressive, criminally inclined, vocabularily challenged high school drop out that’s got one chained in the back of their monster truck.
Ban the owners. We’d all be better off, not just the dogs.
May 27th, 2008 at 6:56 am
I believe the owner should be held accountable. The times recent incidents where the pitbull or rottwieler attacked were when they escaped from the yard they were in.
They should also be properly socialized. The very first dog i ever played with was a rottie and I love them. We used to actually ride them (I was like 4 yrs old) and would never think of it trying to attack me.
I’ve had friends with Pitbulls (and various breeds close to them) and they were pretty gentle and fun to play with.
Now these dogs that attack how are they raised? Are they beaten into submission? Are they wound up and ready to explode at any time? Are they trained as guard dogs etc? To ban an entire breed is ridiculous, their owners should be held accountable for their actions if not properly trained. If they are to be a guard dog ensure they are unable to leave the property.
This sort of conversation goes on and on and on everytime someone is attacked and last I heard, the owners have nothing done to them. They just put the dog down. If a dog kills someone, why can’t we charge the owners.
I could go on and on, but I won’t.. I’ll start rambling worse!
May 27th, 2008 at 7:06 am
Just to note that the picture you used is of a boxer, not a pitbull, in case there was any implied associations. I’m an owner of a boxer and I often get very mistrusting looks from those who don’t know the differences and it’s a bit frustrating to me.
While I’m not a fan of breed-specific legislation for the most part, a boxer and pitbull generally are very different ends of the spectrum in terms of aggression (with the usual exceptions in all cases caveat). I would prefer the control to be directed at owners. We have a pitbull in our neighborhood and it is owned by a very responsible couple who put a muzzle on it anytime they go for a walk….responsibility is within reach for all owners if they make the effort.
May 27th, 2008 at 8:13 am
It doesn’t matter how ‘nice’ the owners are, or how ‘nice’ the pit or rott is, they could play ‘nice’ with children for years, but then, becuase it is in-bred, they can turn on you without notice. They cannot be trusted! It is in their nature to attack, no matter what! It is the breed! You CANNOT trust them!! I don’t care what the owners say! These dogs should be out-lawed! Don’t get me started!
May 27th, 2008 at 8:20 am
Having known several Pits, it is always the owner that makes a dog dangerous. Pit Bulls can be the sweetest, most gentle dogs if they are simply raised in a structured, loving household like any dog should be.
May 27th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
I grew up with ‘pitbulls’, so I will admit my personl experience probably biases me on this subject. I have always believed that there are no ‘bad’ dogs, only ‘bad’ owners. I think the breed, given it’s physiological make-up, has the propensity to be dangerous … so do humans.
May 27th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
I had a pitbull owner get offended when I wanted his dog away from my kids - he said that his dog was fine around kids and that he trusted the dog around kids. My reply was simple.
“I don’t give a damn if you trust your dog around my kids. *I* don’t, and when it comes to my kids, *mine* is the only opinion that matters.”
May 28th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
I think owners should be licenced to get a dog.
First, do you have a criminal record/history of cruel behaviour towards humans or animals? Yes? Then no dog for you.
Second, do you intend to have a large breed dog or cross-bred dog resulting from one on the large breeds? Yes? Then you must prove completion of a professionally accepted training program (must find the right one that doesn’t use punishment…) or prove successful control of your dog. (Start with the large dogs - any dog expected to be greater than a 50lb. adult, and move down from there.)
Third…
I don’t have this all worked out but I’ve thought about it a lot. It’s the owner’s responsibility to manage their dogs and if we had stricter regulations about who could own animals, we might just get closer to a better life for the dogs and those around them.
I think if this was thought through and worked out in a fair and complete manner, we might even be able to make improvements in attempts to curb puppy mills, too. (I’d also like to see “fallow” years when no breeding could take place but this might be pie in the sky).
May 28th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Oh, I’m a big fan of the Dog Whisperer, so I know for a fact it’s the owner’s fault.
August 20th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
All I can say is…
Rod, keep your kids away from my dogs. I don’t trust those “well mannered angels” will not hurt or abuse my dogs.
It’s all reciprocal buddy.
I have seen neighbor kids trying to poke sticks through the fence at my dogs, and scream and yell at them to try to get them to barkor some sort of reaction. They will also, if given the opportunity chase other dogs down the road if they see them out and about. Who is the bully here? Not any of the neighborhood dogs, but instead the kids. Our neighborhood lives in fear of the hoodlums…not the dogs.
Quite frankly I am more than happy to keep my dogs away from most children. Most children do not have enough sense and invariably do something that will potentially injure or hurt the dog they are around.
“Those who live in glass houses, shouldn’t throw stones.”