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		<title>By: Blair Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.miss604.com/2010/02/vancouver-2010-canadian-womens-hockey-team.html#comment-19117</link>
		<dc:creator>Blair Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 02:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was hoping the men&#039;s team would do the same!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was hoping the men&#8217;s team would do the same!</p>
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		<title>By: Roshan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roshan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 02:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Making a mountain out of a molehill. Unnecessarily blowing it out of proportion and trying to dampen the spirits of a winning team.</description>
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		<title>By: Ed Lau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Lau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They won GOLD, people.  That&#039;s something only a handful of people have ever done.  As far as I&#039;m concerned, they have free reign to do whatever they want.  They could&#039;ve stolen some police cars, joyriding up and down Robson Street mooning onlookers and I would&#039;ve been fine with it.

So they broke out some beers and cigars, took some pictures and tried to drive the zamboni.  Who among us wouldn&#039;t after winning Olympic gold?  Only silly prudes would think such a celebration is inappropriate.

I&#039;ll tell you right now...if it was me, there would be much more debauchery involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They won GOLD, people.  That&#8217;s something only a handful of people have ever done.  As far as I&#8217;m concerned, they have free reign to do whatever they want.  They could&#8217;ve stolen some police cars, joyriding up and down Robson Street mooning onlookers and I would&#8217;ve been fine with it.</p>
<p>So they broke out some beers and cigars, took some pictures and tried to drive the zamboni.  Who among us wouldn&#8217;t after winning Olympic gold?  Only silly prudes would think such a celebration is inappropriate.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll tell you right now&#8230;if it was me, there would be much more debauchery involved.</p>
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		<title>By: tdc</title>
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		<dc:creator>tdc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poulin is from Quebec where the drinking age is 18, non?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poulin is from Quebec where the drinking age is 18, non?</p>
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		<title>By: Vancouver 2010 The Final Tally &#187; Vancouver Blog Miss 604 by Rebecca Bollwitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vancouver 2010 The Final Tally &#187; Vancouver Blog Miss 604 by Rebecca Bollwitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 00:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Vancouver 2010 Canadian Womens Hockey Team [...]</description>
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		<title>By: DJR</title>
		<link>http://www.miss604.com/2010/02/vancouver-2010-canadian-womens-hockey-team.html#comment-19112</link>
		<dc:creator>DJR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 23:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two points:

First, I personally have no problem whatsoever with the team returning to the ice to celebrate but I think it demonstrates a severe lack of leadership on behalf of the coaching staff and experienced players to not recognize that this would generate negative press.  These are high profile athletes (in this country anyway) and are held to a different standard. It&#039;s extra naive to think that no one would pounce on the underage drinking thing. Of course, celebrate and spray beer / champagne all over one another, but stick to the convention established over decades of championship sport - keep it in the dressing room.

Second, I think one point has gone unaddressed here with respect to the disparity between the top 2 teams and everyone else.  Yes, other countries are developing their talent.  They&#039;re much better now than they were a decade ago.  The problem is that the US and Canada are still developing faster than the other nations.  The gap between the skill level of the top two team and even the 3rd / 4th teams is getting wider, not narrower.  Let&#039;s not delude ourselves into thinking that giving the sport another 10 years at its current trajectory is going move it towards parity.  Significantly larger efforts at promoting women&#039;s hockey in Sweden, Finland, China, and Russia will be necessary before they even have a hope of competing on a regular basis with Canada or the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two points:</p>
<p>First, I personally have no problem whatsoever with the team returning to the ice to celebrate but I think it demonstrates a severe lack of leadership on behalf of the coaching staff and experienced players to not recognize that this would generate negative press.  These are high profile athletes (in this country anyway) and are held to a different standard. It&#8217;s extra naive to think that no one would pounce on the underage drinking thing. Of course, celebrate and spray beer / champagne all over one another, but stick to the convention established over decades of championship sport &#8211; keep it in the dressing room.</p>
<p>Second, I think one point has gone unaddressed here with respect to the disparity between the top 2 teams and everyone else.  Yes, other countries are developing their talent.  They&#8217;re much better now than they were a decade ago.  The problem is that the US and Canada are still developing faster than the other nations.  The gap between the skill level of the top two team and even the 3rd / 4th teams is getting wider, not narrower.  Let&#8217;s not delude ourselves into thinking that giving the sport another 10 years at its current trajectory is going move it towards parity.  Significantly larger efforts at promoting women&#8217;s hockey in Sweden, Finland, China, and Russia will be necessary before they even have a hope of competing on a regular basis with Canada or the USA.</p>
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		<title>By: Lopsided Results in Women&#8217;s Hockey</title>
		<link>http://www.miss604.com/2010/02/vancouver-2010-canadian-womens-hockey-team.html#comment-19111</link>
		<dc:creator>Lopsided Results in Women&#8217;s Hockey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it happens, I&#8217;ve summarized both arguments in the comments on this post by Rebecca. I thought I&#8217;d reproduce them here, with some minor [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Gideon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gideon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 13:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could it be that the only reason the IOC didn&#039;t like what they did is because the beer they were drinking was not an official sponsor of the Vancouver 2010?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could it be that the only reason the IOC didn&#8217;t like what they did is because the beer they were drinking was not an official sponsor of the Vancouver 2010?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 03:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Darren.  I agree with you, but how are the men able to take it &quot;easy&quot; or &quot;take their foot off the gas&quot;.  The US scored 6 goals in the 1st period and &quot;took it easy&quot; for the next 2 periods.  A strong win, but not demoralizing to their opponent and their fans.

Would you support a 50-0 score against a weaker opponent just because you can run up the score?

I agree somewhat that the scoring system has something to do with it.  The IOC should change that rule to make sure the sport at least appears to be more competitive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Darren.  I agree with you, but how are the men able to take it &#8220;easy&#8221; or &#8220;take their foot off the gas&#8221;.  The US scored 6 goals in the 1st period and &#8220;took it easy&#8221; for the next 2 periods.  A strong win, but not demoralizing to their opponent and their fans.</p>
<p>Would you support a 50-0 score against a weaker opponent just because you can run up the score?</p>
<p>I agree somewhat that the scoring system has something to do with it.  The IOC should change that rule to make sure the sport at least appears to be more competitive.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 23:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike This is a common complaint leveled at international tournaments of all sorts--it&#039;s not unique to hockey. I agree that it appears to be unsporting to run up the score.

In case you don&#039;t know, here&#039;s why teams do it: the number of goals you score (your &#039;goals for&#039;) is usually the tiebreaker statistics when you have the same number of points as another team. This is obviously hugely important if that tiebreaker determines, say, who goes to the next round. It may lesser importance, too, in determining who gets home field advantage.

Also, from a sports psychology perspective, the thinking is that if a team &#039;goes easy&#039; on a lesser team, they risk carrying that behaviour into the subsequent games against tougher opponents. As coaches say, &quot;you have to play your own game, not your opponents&quot;. As such, &#039;taking your foot off the gas&#039; can be risky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike This is a common complaint leveled at international tournaments of all sorts&#8211;it&#8217;s not unique to hockey. I agree that it appears to be unsporting to run up the score.</p>
<p>In case you don&#8217;t know, here&#8217;s why teams do it: the number of goals you score (your &#8216;goals for&#8217;) is usually the tiebreaker statistics when you have the same number of points as another team. This is obviously hugely important if that tiebreaker determines, say, who goes to the next round. It may lesser importance, too, in determining who gets home field advantage.</p>
<p>Also, from a sports psychology perspective, the thinking is that if a team &#8216;goes easy&#8217; on a lesser team, they risk carrying that behaviour into the subsequent games against tougher opponents. As coaches say, &#8220;you have to play your own game, not your opponents&#8221;. As such, &#8216;taking your foot off the gas&#8217; can be risky.</p>
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